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Nov. 6th, 2017 12:13 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
eleanorjaneG and I saw Thor last night. HEEEEEEEEEE!
So, I loved it. It wasn't perfect, but it was great, and I loved it. :)
There were a couple of things that irked me:
- the CGI for the Hulk seemed really poor, and definitely not up to the standard of prior movies. At no point could I forget that I was watching a CGI character, and I'm not sure how they got that so wrong. (Also, his face was quite different from ruffalo!Hulk in the two previous Avengers movies, which was weird.)
- Valkyrie's costume was not as awesome as it should have been - it felt a bit like a cheap fabric jumpsuit with some flimsy metal attached, not Awesome Armor Of Awesomeness. Marvel costuming is usually completely on point, so I'll forgive them, but it was a bit of a surprise.
- the relentless need for comedy made some of the characters feel really OOC - Bruce Banner for one, who was played almost entirely for laughs, and seemed really inconsistent with past Bruce characterisation. (Particularly his dialogue, which just didn't sound like things Bruce would say, to me.) See, also, the Death of Loki play - a fun gag, sure, but wildly out of character for someone as subtle and manipulative as Loki. (Though that Matt Damon cameo was the best thing ever. :D) It felt like too much of the movie was "stuff people are doing because it will get laughs from the audience", not "stuff that is consistent with their characterisation as already established in a number of prior movies", and that distracted me.
- Heimdall's refugees - were they narrative standins for the entirety of Asgard's population, or were they it? Because if they were narrative standins, how the hell did everyone else get out of Asgard? If they were the entirety of the remaining population that just makes no sense for an intergalactic superpower, to say nothing of the size and scale of the population shown in the previous Thor movies. WTF.
- Also, wow, the timeline makes noooooo sense. So Odin did all this shit before Thor was born, and everyone just Does Not Speak About It Ever? How do you get to be several hundred or thousand years old and find out that the nation you are being raised to rule has a wildly different history that stops shortly before your birth? Valkyries existed and were a known thing right up until Hela, and then they just disappeared, and nobody asks questions? Again with the This Maketh No Sense. Usually Marvel movies have fewer obvious plotholes than this.
But so much was great!
+ Hilarious, obviously. I found this funnier than Marvel's other comedies, Ant-Man and the GotG movies.
+ Valkyrie, yay! Everything about her was great, and I can't say a bad thing about her. Please can we have a Valkyrie movie now? Please?
+ THOR THOR THOR ♥ This movie was the first time we've really seen him as anything other than a thoughtless hothead (or a big daffy adorable stupid labrador), and I love the growth and maturity we're seeing in him. He hasn't lost his true self and become all serene and perfect - he still has a massive ego, for starters - but he's canny and clever and for the first time you can maybe see King Thor could be a good thing.
+ I realllllly liked Loki in this; Loki is way better as an antihero than as an antagonist, I think. Selfish enough that he's always looking out for number one (and I loved Thor's recognition of that fact, and the ensuing respect he earned from Loki) but not a genocidal maniac who wasn't hugged enough as a child. (Also, holy shit, Tom Hiddleston still extraordinarily fine, no change there. Nom.) And I really like the Thor/Loki dynamic.
+ EVIL CATE BLANCHETT, I am so here for you. Hela was so great; just enough character to be interesting, but not Evil Because of Angst or Emo, she just... couldn't be anything other than what she was. Brilliant villain.
...wow, it's kind of scary to think that Odin's parenting skills started out even worse.
+ The staging of the whole thing was just brilliant. For the first time ever I really felt like I was watching gods fighting. The effortless, casual superhumanity; they had consistent power-sets, never invulnerable but very powerful, and basically the fight scenes were just an absolute joy that did justice to the characters in a way I felt most of the movies don't.
So yeah, basically, I loved it and cackled and want more. :)
So, I loved it. It wasn't perfect, but it was great, and I loved it. :)
There were a couple of things that irked me:
- the CGI for the Hulk seemed really poor, and definitely not up to the standard of prior movies. At no point could I forget that I was watching a CGI character, and I'm not sure how they got that so wrong. (Also, his face was quite different from ruffalo!Hulk in the two previous Avengers movies, which was weird.)
- Valkyrie's costume was not as awesome as it should have been - it felt a bit like a cheap fabric jumpsuit with some flimsy metal attached, not Awesome Armor Of Awesomeness. Marvel costuming is usually completely on point, so I'll forgive them, but it was a bit of a surprise.
- the relentless need for comedy made some of the characters feel really OOC - Bruce Banner for one, who was played almost entirely for laughs, and seemed really inconsistent with past Bruce characterisation. (Particularly his dialogue, which just didn't sound like things Bruce would say, to me.) See, also, the Death of Loki play - a fun gag, sure, but wildly out of character for someone as subtle and manipulative as Loki. (Though that Matt Damon cameo was the best thing ever. :D) It felt like too much of the movie was "stuff people are doing because it will get laughs from the audience", not "stuff that is consistent with their characterisation as already established in a number of prior movies", and that distracted me.
- Heimdall's refugees - were they narrative standins for the entirety of Asgard's population, or were they it? Because if they were narrative standins, how the hell did everyone else get out of Asgard? If they were the entirety of the remaining population that just makes no sense for an intergalactic superpower, to say nothing of the size and scale of the population shown in the previous Thor movies. WTF.
- Also, wow, the timeline makes noooooo sense. So Odin did all this shit before Thor was born, and everyone just Does Not Speak About It Ever? How do you get to be several hundred or thousand years old and find out that the nation you are being raised to rule has a wildly different history that stops shortly before your birth? Valkyries existed and were a known thing right up until Hela, and then they just disappeared, and nobody asks questions? Again with the This Maketh No Sense. Usually Marvel movies have fewer obvious plotholes than this.
But so much was great!
+ Hilarious, obviously. I found this funnier than Marvel's other comedies, Ant-Man and the GotG movies.
+ Valkyrie, yay! Everything about her was great, and I can't say a bad thing about her. Please can we have a Valkyrie movie now? Please?
+ THOR THOR THOR ♥ This movie was the first time we've really seen him as anything other than a thoughtless hothead (or a big daffy adorable stupid labrador), and I love the growth and maturity we're seeing in him. He hasn't lost his true self and become all serene and perfect - he still has a massive ego, for starters - but he's canny and clever and for the first time you can maybe see King Thor could be a good thing.
+ I realllllly liked Loki in this; Loki is way better as an antihero than as an antagonist, I think. Selfish enough that he's always looking out for number one (and I loved Thor's recognition of that fact, and the ensuing respect he earned from Loki) but not a genocidal maniac who wasn't hugged enough as a child. (Also, holy shit, Tom Hiddleston still extraordinarily fine, no change there. Nom.) And I really like the Thor/Loki dynamic.
+ EVIL CATE BLANCHETT, I am so here for you. Hela was so great; just enough character to be interesting, but not Evil Because of Angst or Emo, she just... couldn't be anything other than what she was. Brilliant villain.
...wow, it's kind of scary to think that Odin's parenting skills started out even worse.
+ The staging of the whole thing was just brilliant. For the first time ever I really felt like I was watching gods fighting. The effortless, casual superhumanity; they had consistent power-sets, never invulnerable but very powerful, and basically the fight scenes were just an absolute joy that did justice to the characters in a way I felt most of the movies don't.
So yeah, basically, I loved it and cackled and want more. :)